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2011: Year of the flood

Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:21 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011

The year 2010 was one the worst years in world history for high-impact floods. But just three weeks into the new year, 2011 has already had an entire year's worth of mega-floods. I'll recap here six remarkable floods that have already occurred this year.

Brazil
Brazil suffered its deadliest natural disaster in history on January 11, when torrential rains inundated a heavily populated, steep-sloped area about 40 miles north of Rio de Janeiro. Flash floods and mudslides from the heavy rains have claimed 902 lives, including at least 357 in Nova Friburgo and 323 in Teresópolis. Rainfall amounts of approximately 300 mm (12 inches) fell in just a few hours in the hardest-hit regions. Damage estimates are currently $1.2 billion, and 13,000 were left homeless. Latest rainfall forecasts from the GFS model show the heaviest rains during the coming week staying well south of the Rio de Janeiro area, which will give the flood region time to dry out and recover.

Figure 1. Flooded stream in Teresópolis. Image credit: Wikipedia.

Australia Queensland
Australia's most expensive natural disaster in history is now the Queensland flood of 2010 - 2011, with a price tag now as high as $30 billion. At least 31 have been killed since December in the floods, and another 40 are missing. According to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, in 2010 Australia had its wettest spring (September - November) since records began 111 years ago, with some sections of coastal Queensland receiving over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. Queensland typically has its rainiest years when La Niña events occur, due to the much warmer than average ocean temperatures that occur along the coast. The BOM noted, "Previous strong La Niña events, such as those of 1974 and 1955, have also been associated with widespread and severe flooding in eastern Australia. Sea surface temperatures off the Queensland coast in recent months have also been at or near record levels." The BOM's annual summary also reported, "Sea surface temperatures in the Australian region during 2010 were the warmest value on record for the Australian region. Individual high monthly sea surface temperature records were also set during 2010 in March, April, June, September, October, November and December. Along with favourable hemispheric circulation associated with the 2010 La Niña, very warm sea surface temperatures contributed to the record rainfall and very high humidity across eastern Australia during winter and spring." Queensland has an area the size of Germany and France combined, and 3/4 of the region has been declared a disaster zone. The latest GFS precipitation forecast for the coming week shows new heavy rains of 3 - 5 inches can be expected over the extreme northern portion of Queensland, but the majority of the state will receive lesser rains that should not further aggravate the flooding situation.

Figure 2. The airport, the Bruce Highway, and large swaths of Rockhampton, Australia, went under water due to flooding from the Fitzroy River on January 9, 2011. The town of 75,000 was completely cut off by road and rail, and food, water and medicine had to be brought in by boat and helicopter. Image credit: NASA.

Australia Victoria
From January 12 - 14, extremely heavy rains over the southern Australian state of Victoria caused major flooding that killed one person and caused hundreds of millions in damage. Kevin Parkyn, a senior forecaster with the Bureau of Meteorology said "Victoria is experiencing one of its worst flood events in its history" after "a week in which rainfall totals have been smashed in parts of Victoria". Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Terry Ryan said "It's the worst flood in western Victoria in their history as far as our records go in terms of the depth of water and the number of places affected." According to atmospheric moisture expert Dr. Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, extratropical storm systems like the one that affected Victoria get 70% of their moisture from the surrounding atmosphere, and 30% due to evaporation from the surface. Since the airmass that supplied Victoria with its flooding rains traveled over the already-flooded portions of Queensland to the north before reaching Victoria, the moisture from the Queensland floods contributed significantly to the Victoria floods. Little rain is predicted over Victoria during the coming week, fortunately.

100-year flood in Sri Lanka
As I reported in my previous post, at least 43 are dead and damage estimates are at $500 million in Sri Lanka, which suffered a 1-in-100 year flood this month.

South Africa
Heavy rains of up 345 mm (13.6") have fallen in South Africa so far this month, resulting in deadly floods that have killed 40 people. Seven of the country's nine provinces have been declared disaster zones. Agricultural damage alone from the floods is estimated at $145 million. Heavy rains and severe flooding have also affected neighboring Mozambique, where 13 people are dead and 13,000 homeless or suffering damaged homes. Neighboring Zimbabwe has seen its heaviest rains in 30 years in recent weeks, according to the nation's Civil Protection Unit, but severe flooding has not yet hit that nation. La Niña events commonly cause heavy rains in southern Africa. Sea surface temperatures off the east coast of South Africa were 0.2 - 0.4°C above average during December 2010--nowhere near record levels, but warm enough to contribute to enhanced rainfall.

Philippines
Very heavy rains since late December have triggered a major flooding disaster in the Philippines, where 40 are dead, 453,000 people displaced, and 1.2 million people affected. The heavy rains were caused when a cold front moved over the eastern Philippines and lingered for many days. Heavy rains are common in the Philippines during La Niña events, as unusually warm waters accumulate by the islands. This winter, the waters in the central Philippines (10N to 15N, 120E to 130E) were at the warmest levels in history--1.0°C above average during December. The exceptionally warm waters allowed more moisture than usual to evaporate into the air, enhancing rainfall.

Commentary
The year 2011 has begun with a remarkable number of high-impact floods world-wide, and much of the blame for this can be placed on the current La Niña event occurring in the Eastern Pacific. NOAA's Climate Prediction Center currently puts the La Niña event in the "strong" category, and whenever a La Niña or El Niño event reaches the strong category, major perturbations to global weather patterns occur. This typically results in record or near-record flooding in one or more regions of the globe. When one combines the impact of La Niña with the increase of global ocean temperatures of 0.5°C (0.9°F) over the past 50 years, which has put 4% more water vapor into the atmosphere since 1970, the result is a much increased chance of unprecedented floods. A 4% increase in atmospheric moisture may not sound like much, but it turns out that precipitation will increase by about 8% with that 4% moisture increase. Critically, it is the extreme rainfall events that tend to supply the increased rainfall. For example, (Groisman et al., 2004) found a 20% increase in very heavy (top 1%) precipitation events over the U.S. in the past century, and a 36% rise in cold season (October - April) "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events. These extreme rainfall events are the ones most likely to cause floods.

References
Groisman, P.Y., R.W. Knight, T.R. Karl, D.R. Easterling, B. Sun, and J.H. Lawrimore, 2004, "Contemporary Changes of the Hydrological Cycle over the Contiguous United States: Trends Derived from In Situ Observations," J. Hydrometeor., 5, 64.85.

Milly, P.C.D., R.T. Wetherald, K.A. Dunne, and T.L.Delworth, Increasing risk of great floods in a changing climate", Nature 415, 514-517 (31 January 2002) | doi:10.1038/415514a.

Santer, B.D., C. Mears, F. J. Wentz, K. E. Taylor, P. J. Gleckler, T. M. L. Wigley, T. P. Barnett, J. S. Boyle, W. Brüggemann, N. P. Gillett, S. A. Klein, G. A. Meehl, T. Nozawa, D. W. Pierce, P. A. Stott, W. M. Washington, and M. F. Wehner, 2007, "Identification of human-induced changes in atmospheric moisture content", PNAS 2007 104: 15248-15253.

Trenberth, K.E., J. Fasullo, and L. Smith, 2005: "Trends and variability in column-integrated atmospheric water vapor", Climate Dynamics 24, 741-758.

Jeff Masters

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51. hydrus 05:09 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting severstorm: They had flooding just last weekend in parts of Oregon. The Eastern Pacific off the U.S. West Coast looks quiet for a while... Member Since: septembrie 27, 2007 Posts: 1 Comments: 14314

52. 47n91w 05:10 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting txag91met: Better hope this GFS run isn't right, or mini-ice age cometh to the USA in the next 2 weeks. Feels like the arctic this morning in the Upper Midwest. From the NWS in Duluth: # The lowest temperatures recorded in the NWS Duluth county warning area were -46 degrees at both International Falls, MN (ASOS) and Babbitt, MN (CO-OP). # The -46 degree low was tied for the 5th lowest on record at International Falls. Temperature records date back to 1897. The record is -55 degrees which was recorded on January 6, 1909. I had -18 with a windchill of -31 at 8:00 this morning. Which seems kinda warm compared with the Nation's Icebox. I do remember seeing -50 back in 1996, when Wisconsin's record low temp was set (-55). Haven't gotten that cold in awhile, but will definitely keep my eye on next week's temperatures. Member Since: august 13, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 230

53. rmbjoe1954 05:16 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
I wonder if , as predicted, this strong La Nina will carry over into 2011 Hurricane season and cause some concern. Member Since: iunie 16, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 733

54. Floodman 05:17 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting NRAamy: I thought it was the year of the cat.... No, that was 1975 Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

55. calusakat 05:18 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan: Ran across an interesting panel discussion in which Dr. Masters took part back in December. Here's the transcript; audio files are also available. "2010 could very well be the sign that the climate is beginning to grow unstable. That's what we're bequeathing to our kids. I have a 14 year old as well, that I think is going to be looking back fondly on years like 2010 saying, 'Oh, it wasn't so bad back then.'" Ouch... On the other hand, it could be much ado about nothing too. Time will tell because mother nature doesn't read the news or listen to the radio and TV outlets when she makes the weather happen. She da boss. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

56. calusakat 05:20 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting NRAamy: how can we have a mini ice-age with GW? Easy. Mother Nature doesn't know about such things as GW. She is in charge of the weather, not us. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

57. Floodman 05:20 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: On the other hand, it could be much ado about nothing too. Time will tell because mother nature doesn't read the news or listen to the radio and TV outlets when she makes the weather happen. She da boss. It appears the boss is pissed off Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

58. txag91met 05:22 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan: Ran across an interesting panel discussion in which Dr. Masters took part back in December. Here's the transcript; audio files are also available. "2010 could very well be the sign that the climate is beginning to grow unstable. That's what we're bequeathing to our kids. I have a 14 year old as well, that I think is going to be looking back fondly on years like 2010 saying, 'Oh, it wasn't so bad back then.'" Ouch... I am not worried about it...I have been forecasting weather for 20 years. I have seen some crazy weather patterns. I doubt 10 years from now there will be much change from the present, except maybe a 0.5F to 1F warmer if that. Member Since: ianuarie 30, 2005 Posts: 6 Comments: 729

59. pottery 05:22 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: On the other hand, it could be much ado about nothing too. Time will tell because mother nature doesn't read the news or listen to the radio and TV outlets when she makes the weather happen. She da boss. Greetings.. You are correct you know, it COULD be. But unfortunately, more and more, it seems like it isnt. I tend to go with Evidence in matters like these. Not wishful thinking. Member Since: octombrie 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20716

60. wxvoyeur 05:23 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting severstorm: They had flooding just last weekend in parts of Oregon. Yes we did: http://vimeo.com/18921387 Member Since: iunie 26, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 100

61. calusakat 05:23 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Floodman: It appears the boss is pissed off What? Pissed at who? At us 'ugly sacks of water'? We be itty bitty specks scurrying around, she pays us no mind at all. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

62. txag91met 05:24 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Levi32: "When one combines the impact of La Nina with the increase of global ocean temperatures of 0.5C (0.9F) over the past 50 years, which has put 4% more water vapor into the atmosphere since 1970, the result is a much increased chance of unprecedented floods. A 4% increase in atmospheric moisture may not sound like much, but it turns out that precipitation will increase by about 8% with that 4% moisture increase." How is this number come up with, exactly? Is it assuming a warming world or a constant temperature? Is it significantly lagged (which wouldn't make sense)? Looking at the GHCN global precipitation data set, the linear trend since 1970 has been about 0.008 mm/day per decade, which isn't a very significant slope to begin with. The average global annual rainfall is approximately an average of 2.71mm per day. This yields an increase since 1970 of about 1.18% from the global mean. This is nowhere close to 8%, and unlike temperature, global precipitation is not averaging higher today than it was in the mid-20th century, and the overall trend is not nearly as significant as in the global temperature data sets. Thanks for the graph. Member Since: ianuarie 30, 2005 Posts: 6 Comments: 729

63. pottery 05:27 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: Easy. Mother Nature doesn't know about such things as GW. She is in charge of the weather, not us. Interesting concept. Mother Nature located a large nest of Leaf Cutting ants on my property this week. I dealt them a DeathBlow. Wiped them out. In spite of Mother Nature's protests. Same with the Weather and Climate. Mother Nature would be fine and have everything Her way, if we did not keep screwing with her. The Gods help those that also help themselves. Member Since: octombrie 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20716

64. calusakat 05:29 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting pottery: Greetings.. You are correct you know, it COULD be. But unfortunately, more and more, it seems like it isnt. I tend to go with Evidence in matters like these. Not wishful thinking. Concentrate on the words news or radio and TV outlets. Step back and ask yourself if someone would so easily convince you of a pattern spanning say twenty years when the history in question 8000 years? Of course not. You would be pointing out that too little was known in comparison to the 8000 year history. Study statistics and see for yourself that such a short time interval is not enough to justify any sort of 'set in stone' interpretation in any scientific field. In other sciences, such an attempt would be laughed of the stage. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

65. hydrus 05:29 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting RitaEvac: Check out the vort system south of Haiti in the Central Carribbean on visible... Still warm down ther too... Member Since: septembrie 27, 2007 Posts: 1 Comments: 14314

66. NRAamy 05:31 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Jerry! :) Member Since: ianuarie 24, 2007 Posts: 315 Comments: 31937

67. hydrus 05:32 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
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68. Floodman 05:35 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting NRAamy: Jerry! :) Amy baby! How are you? Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

69. pottery 05:35 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: Concentrate on the words news or radio and TV outlets. Step back and ask yourself if someone would so easily convince you of a pattern spanning say twenty years when the history in question 8000 years? Of course not. You would be pointing out that too little was known in comparison to the 8000 year history. Study statistics and see for yourself that such a short time interval is not enough to justify any sort of 'set in stone' interpretation in any scientific field. In other sciences, such an attempt would be laughed of the stage. Good point. I hear that there was a serious amount of rainfall around the time of Noah and his Ark. I am sure you can find acceptable Evidence for that. Same as me, being able to find Acceptable evidence for Climate conditions 8000 years ago. (from Ice cores, habitation centers, marine deposits etc etc) It's ALL relative you know. Member Since: octombrie 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20716

70. Floodman 05:37 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: What? Pissed at who? At us 'ugly sacks of water'? We be itty bitty specks scurrying around, she pays us no mind at all. She's pissed off in general; bear in mind, however, that ambulatory bags of water can be pretty powerful in their own right... Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

71. calusakat 05:41 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting pottery: Good point. I hear that there was a serious amount of rainfall around the time of Noah and his Ark. I am sure you can find acceptable Evidence for that. Same as me, being able to find Acceptable evidence for Climate conditions 8000 years ago. (from Ice cores, habitation centers, marine deposits etc etc) It's ALL relative you know. Yes, indeed. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

72. xcool 05:42 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Member Since: septembrie 26, 2009 Posts: 2 Comments: 15503

73. pottery 05:42 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Hey Flood.. Dr. Masters has named this current blog for you, man. "2011- the year of The Flood" Good going ... Member Since: octombrie 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20716

74. pottery 05:45 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: Yes, indeed. What ??? Be careful. You are in danger of agreeing with me, that my 8000 year old evidence can be Acceptable. Are you OK? LOL Member Since: octombrie 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20716

75. xcool 05:47 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
130 days to hurricane season Member Since: septembrie 26, 2009 Posts: 2 Comments: 15503

76. NRAamy 05:48 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
post 73... hahahahahaha! :) Member Since: ianuarie 24, 2007 Posts: 315 Comments: 31937

77. jeffs713 06:02 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting xcool: Somehow, I seriously doubt 6+ inches of snow over that large of an area near Houston. Bear in mind... that forecast is 11 days out. If all of those forecasts came true, Houston would average about a foot of snow annually. The GFS has done a decent job at predicting overall trends this year, but its gotten stuck on specifics more than a week out. (The Euro has been solid for trends, but worse on specifics) Member Since: august 3, 2008 Posts: 15 Comments: 5722

79. Neapolitan 06:13 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: On the other hand, it could be much ado about nothing too. Time will tell because mother nature doesn't read the news or listen to the radio and TV outlets when she makes the weather happen. She da boss. Yes, she is. And she doesn't listen to non-scientific gibberish, wishful thinking, oil company obfuscation, or talk radio nonsense, either. All she knows is that she's boss, and she doesn't like us humans messing with her. That tends to make her angry; that tends to make her get rid of whatever it is that's bothering her... Member Since: noiembrie 8, 2009 Posts: 4 Comments: 11174

80. jeffs713 06:26 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan: Yes, she is. And she doesn't listen to non-scientific gibberish, wishful thinking, oil company obfuscation, or talk radio nonsense, either. All she knows is that she's boss, and she doesn't like us humans messing with her. That tends to make her angry; that tends to make her get rid of whatever it is that's bothering her... Equilibrium must be maintained... one way or another. Member Since: august 3, 2008 Posts: 15 Comments: 5722

82. JRRP 06:38 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
5.3 north of PR Member Since: august 16, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 4315

83. Floodman 06:39 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting pottery: Hey Flood.. Dr. Masters has named this current blog for you, man. "2011- the year of The Flood" Good going ... BOWS DEEPLY Ahem! It is with great pride and a deep sense of gratitude that I accept this honor on behalf of the little people... Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

84. Floodman 06:42 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Surfcropper: I'd rather be a live squid than an old rubbery once-was drying on the hook :) She changes her mind all the time and the science changes to suit the credibility of those that try to read her mind. She never changes her mind...ever...we're just not smart enough as yet to figure out what she's thinking Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

85. jeffs713 06:42 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Floodman: BOWS DEEPLY Ahem! It with great pride and a deep sense of gratitude that I accept this honor on behalf of the little people... Oh, the jokes I can make from this... Member Since: august 3, 2008 Posts: 15 Comments: 5722

87. Floodman 07:01 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting jeffs713: Oh, the jokes I can make from this... LOL Jeff, how are you? Member Since: august 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919

88. calusakat 07:14 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting pottery: What ??? Be careful. You are in danger of agreeing with me, that my 8000 year old evidence can be Acceptable. Are you OK? LOL Notice that word 'can'? As long as that word, or one like it is present in a discussion I have no problem. Why is that okay with me? Because it also means that the evidence might not be acceptable as well. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

89. calusakat 07:19 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan: Yes, she is. And she doesn't listen to non-scientific gibberish, wishful thinking, oil company obfuscation, or talk radio nonsense, either. All she knows is that she's boss, and she doesn't like us humans messing with her. That tends to make her angry; that tends to make her get rid of whatever it is that's bothering her... You are assuming an awful lot there. We are little more than pesky fleas causing her to itch. Mother Nature be in complete control, she's not angry, she simply has methods of dealing with minor irritations like us. It is our job to ADAPT. Member Since: octombrie 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716

90. Bordonaro 07:43 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Here in the DFW Metroplex in N TX, dreaming of a 80F afternoon. Morning low was 21F, official forecast high is 43F. If the afternoon high verifies, that will be ab average of 32F, or 12F below normal. Average for the month is -2.6F from normal. After 3.3 F above normal in Nov & 2.6 F above normal in Dec. BRRRR. Member Since: august 25, 2009 Posts: 20 Comments: 6785

93. Patrap 07:47 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
New Orleans Jazz Fest 2011 to feature Arcade Fire, Bon Jovi, Kid Rock, Wilco and many more Member Since: iulie 3, 2005 Posts: 372 Comments: 111626

94. Jedkins01 07:47 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan: Yes, she is. And she doesn't listen to non-scientific gibberish, wishful thinking, oil company obfuscation, or talk radio nonsense, either. All she knows is that she's boss, and she doesn't like us humans messing with her. That tends to make her angry; that tends to make her get rid of whatever it is that's bothering her... Hey man, this isn't the movie avatar, you know. lol Member Since: august 21, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 5336

95. clwstmchasr 07:48 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
This is a La Nina season isn't it? Looking at the rainfall for Clearwater it says El Nino. 1.24" today and 5.71" for the month. Way above the normal. Here is the link to the reporting station: http://www.pinellascounty.org/weather/index.html Member Since: iulie 29, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 2759

96. Bordonaro 07:50 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Member Since: august 25, 2009 Posts: 20 Comments: 6785

97. Neapolitan 07:55 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting calusakat: You are assuming an awful lot there. We are little more than pesky fleas causing her to itch. Mother Nature be in complete control, she's not angry, she simply has methods of dealing with minor irritations like us. It is our job to ADAPT. It is our duty to not keep biting our genial host. Member Since: noiembrie 8, 2009 Posts: 4 Comments: 11174

98. Jedkins01 07:57 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting Surfcropper: I wonder what's worse...an ancient alien or a modern alien? This question needs answers and graphs and model predictions. Hmm I would tend to think both.... For example, ancient aliens would have tendency to be senile, meaning they are more likely to crash their space cruisers into our planet. Then blame it on us and melt us all with super lasers. Or they might blame us all because they lost their pills. Or if they are modern aliens, they will wipe us out because we aren't in with the new "hip trend". Or they will try and force us to change because they are mad at us for not being progressive enough, just for the sake of being progressive. Ancient or modern, either way, if aliens come we are doomed, that's my conclusion... Member Since: august 21, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 5336

99. Jedkins01 08:00 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
Quoting clwstmchasr: This is a La Nina season isn't it? Looking at the rainfall for Clearwater it says El Nino. 1.24" today and 5.71" for the month. Way above the normal. Here is the link to the reporting station: http://www.pinellascounty.org/weather/index.html Ive been saying the same thing! Hey we aren't complaining though! We have been well below to at times, record low rainfall every month going back to September, we haven't had a wet month since August. I love it personally, hopefully this trend will continue to defy La Nina in Florida! Member Since: august 21, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 5336

100. overwash12 08:01 PM GMT on ianuarie 21, 2011
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