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TD 13 intensifying; Katia may pass uncomfortably close to U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:28 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011 +30
Tropical Depression Thirteen formed last night over the Northern Gulf of Mexico and is slowly intensifying, but isn't in a hurry to go anywhere. What TD 13 will do is dump torrential rains along the northern Gulf Coast over the next three or more days. So far, rain amounts along the coast have mostly been below one inch. At New Orleans Lakefront Airport, just 0.32" inches of rain had fallen from TD 13 as of 10 am CDT. Some coastal regions have received up to two inches, according to radar rainfall estimates. TD 13 is generating a large area of 30 - 35 mph winds over the Gulf of Mexico. At 7:20 am CDT, winds at the Mississippi Canyon 711 oil rig were southeast at 47 mph. This is above tropical storm force, but the wind instrument was 348 feet (106 m) above the ocean surface, and winds near the surface were probably considerably lower, near 35 mph. Latest surface wind observations from an Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft support leaving TD 13 as a tropical depression. Long range radar out of Mobile, Alabama shows heavy rain showers building along the northern Gulf Coast, but these rain showers are not well-organized into spiral bands. Strong upper-level winds out of the west-northwest are creating a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over TD 13, keeping the storm's heavy thunderstorms disorganized and pushed to the east side of the storm. However, latest satelllite loops show TD 13 is becoming increasingly organized, with a respectable spiral band forming on the southeast side, and an increase and areal coverage of heavy thunderstorm activity. This is very likely to be a tropical storm later today.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated rainfall from TD 13 from the New Orleans radar.


Figure 2. U.S. drought conditions on August 30. The rains from TD 13 have the potential to bring major drought relief to drought-stricken portions of the coast. Note how Eastern North Carolina is no longer in drought, thanks to the rains from Hurricane Irene. These rains also came close to putting out a persistent fire that had been burning in the Great Dismal Swamp near the Virginia/North Carolina border. Image Credit: U.S. Drought Monitor.

Forecast for TD 13
TD 13's large size, ill-formed circulation center, and the presence of dry air on its west side due to an upper-level trough of low pressure argue against rapid intensification of the storm for the next three days. Also tending to slow intensification will be the slow movement of the storm, which will allow cold water from the depths to rise to the surface, thanks to wind and wave action. Tropical cyclones strongly cool the water's surface when they pass over it, as seen in the time vs. depth chart of sea surface temperatures during Hurricane Irene's passage along the New Jersey coast (Figure 3.) However, the Gulf of Mexico has some very warm waters near TD 13 that extend to great depth (Figure 4), so the surface cooling imparted by TD 13 will be less than that seen for Hurricane Irene. As TD 13 moves closer to the coast, more and more of its circulation will be over land, which will also slow intensification. NHC's 11 am EDT wind probability forecast for TD 13 gave the storm a 23% chance of intensifying into a hurricane by Sunday. Assuming TD 13 does not attain hurricane strength, wind damage and storm surge damage will likely not be the main concern--fresh water flooding from heavy rains will be the most dangerous impact. Also of concern is the possibility of tornadoes. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is currently not highlighting the Gulf Coast in their "slight risk" area for severe weather, due to the lack of enough solar heating to create instability. However, there will be plenty of wind shear in the lower part of the atmosphere that can potentially create spin in the coastal thunderstorms, and it is possible that as TD 13 intensifies, it may be able to generate several dozen tornadoes.

Coastal Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and the extreme western Panhandle of Florida will likely receive very heavy flooding rains that will intensify Saturday and peak on Sunday. These rains should be able to put out the stubborn marsh fire east of New Orleans that has brought several days of air quality alerts to the city, but may cause moderate to severe flooding problems in other areas. The latest rainfall forecast from NOAA Hydrological Prediction Center shows that a large area of 15+ inches of rain is expected over Southeast Louisiana and coastal Mississippi. The region is under moderate drought, so flooding problems will be delayed compared to what we'd normally expect from heavy rains of over a foot. Flash flood watches are posted for New Orleans and surrounding areas, and rainfall amounts of 1 - 3 inches per hour are possible in some of the heavier rain squalls. Ocean temperatures are near record warmth, 88°F (31°C), which will provide plenty of moisture for heavy rains, and plenty of energy to help TD 13 strengthen into a strong tropical storm. Steering currents will be weak in the Gulf this weekend and early next week, which will likely make the motion of TD 13 erratic at times.


Figure 3. EPA, in conjunction with Rutgers University and the NJ Department of Environmental Protection, has an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV, aka the Glider) deployed off the coast of NJ (since early August) continuously monitoring ocean temperature, density, salinity, sound velocity and dissolved oxygen at different depths. The AUV's path and data are displayed at the following website: http://marine.rutgers.edu/cool/auvs/index.php?did =221&view=imagery. The plot of temperature versus time above shows that in the weeks prior to the arrival of Irene, the ocean was heavily stratified, with warm waters of 24 - 26°C (75 - 79°F, red colors) extending from the surface to a depth of 10 - 15 meters. A sharp thermocline existed at a depth of about 15 meters, and ocean temperatures were colder than 14°C (57°F, dark blue colors) below the thermocline. The strong winds and high wave action of Hurricane Irene on August 28 - 29 stirred up cold water from the depths to the surface, cooling the surface waters to 17 - 19°C (63 - 67°F). In the days since the hurricane, surface waters have begun to warm again. Thanks go to Kevin Kubik, Deputy Director of the Division of Environmental Science and Assessment for EPA Region 2, for making me aware of this data.


Figure 4. The total amount of heat energy in the ocean available to fuel a tropical cyclone, in kilojoules per square centimeter of surface area. Tropical cyclones that move over ocean areas with TCHP values in excess of 70 - 90 kJ/cm^2 commonly undergo rapid intensification. Waters that are warm to a great depth have the highest TCHP, and the Loop Current that brings warm water northwards from the Caribbean to the Gulf of Mexico usually has the highest TCHP values in the Atlantic. Currently, we have an eddy that broke off from the Loop Current earlier this summer, now located a few hundred miles south of the Louisiana coast, that also has high TCHP values. Image Credit: NOAA/AOML.

Hurricane Katia
Hurricane Katia is continuing its long trek across the Atlantic Ocean today, and will not pose a danger to any land areas over the next five days. Katia is still struggling with dry air and moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. Latest satellite loops show surface-based arc-shaped clouds racing to the southwest away from Katia's core, a sign that dry air is penetrating into Katia's thunderstorms and creating strong downdrafts that are robbing the storm of heat and moisture. Katia is over warm ocean waters of 28.5°C, and these waters will increase in temperature to 29°C over the next five days. Katia will pass well north of the region of cooler waters stirred up by the passage of Hurricane Irene last week.

The models are split on when the upper-level trough of low pressure bringing the wind shear to Katia will move away, and the storm may spend two more days battling wind shear and dry air before the upper-level trough pulls away to the north and allows Katia to intensify more readily. It is still unclear how much of a threat Katia may pose to the U.S., but it is becoming increasingly clear that Katia will pass uncomfortably close to the U.S. East Coast. The trough of low pressure currently steering Katia to the northwest will lift out early next week, and a ridge of high pressure is expected to build in, forcing Katia more to the west. This decreases the danger to Bermuda, but increases the danger to the U.S. A second trough of low pressure is expected to begin affecting Katia by the middle of next week, and will potentially recurve the storm out to sea before it hits the U.S. However, the models differ widely on the strength and timing of this trough. Meteorologist Grant Elliot of Australia's Bureau of Meteorology in Perth pointed out to me yesterday that the long-range forecast for Katia has more than the usual amount of uncertainty, due to the inability of the computer models to agree on what will happen to Tropical Storm Talas in the Western Pacific. Talas is expected to hit Japan early on Saturday as a strong tropical storm, then race northwestwards into the Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska. Talas is then expected to transition into a powerful extratropical storm in the waters south of Alaska. This storm will create a ripple effect downstream in the jet stream, all the way to North America, by early next week. The timing and amplitude of the trough of low pressure off the U.S. East Coast expected to potentially recurve Katia out to sea next week is highly dependent upon the strength of Tropical Storm Talas during its transition to an extratropical storm. The computer models are not very good at handling these sorts of transitions, leading to more than the usual amount of uncertainty in the long-range outlook for Katia. It will probably be another 2 - 3 days before the models will begin to converge on a solution for the long-term fate of Katia. Dr. Bob Hart's Historical Tropical Cyclone Probability web page suggests shows that tropical storms in Katia's current position have a 17% chance of hitting North Carolina, a 21% chance of hitting Canada, a 13% chance of hitting New England, and a 55% chance of never hitting land. One almost certain impact of Katia on the U.S. will be large waves. Long period swells from Katia will begin affecting the Bahamas on Sunday night, then reach the Southeast U.S. by Monday morning. By Tuesday morning, the entire U.S. East Coast will see high surf from Katia, and these waves will increase in size and power as the storm grows closer. Given the slow movement of Katia as it approaches the coast, plus its expected Category 1 to 3 strength as it approaches, the storm will probably cause extensive beach erosion and dangerous rip tides for many days.

94L
A well-organized low pressure system with a surface circulation but limited heavy thunderstorm activity due to high wind shear is 450 miles south of Halifax, Canada. This disturbance, (94L), is headed northeast out to sea, and is being given a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by NHC. 94L is under a high 25 - 30 knots of wind shear, but this shear is expected to fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, by Saturday morning. However, sea surface temperature will fall from 27°C today to 25°C Saturday morning underneath 94L, and the storm will have a very short window of time to get organized enough to get a name. At this point, it's really a subjective judgement call on whether or not 94L is already a tropical storm.


Figure 5. A Portlight volunteer works to clear storm debris from Hurricane Irene in Hollywood, Maryland.

Portlight disaster relief effort in Maryland
Hurricane Irene heavily damaged the town of Hollywood, Maryland, when a tornado cut off electric power, water, and phone service. Portlight and Team Rubicon volunteers arrived before emergency personnel, after following up on a local tip. What they found was an isolated area whose plight was unknown to the larger community. Most residents were trapped at their homes by heavy debris. Portlight and Team Rubicon worked for two days to clear paths to each address, extract vehicles from debris, and cut down trees that constituted safety hazards. Portlight also instructed local residents how to operate and maintain chainsaws and safely clear debris. No other volunteer organizations or emergency personnel arrived at any time, and Portlight succeeded in meeting the specific needs of the underserved, unserved, and forgotten. Visit the Portlight blog to learn more; donations are always welcome.

I'll have a new post each morning over the coming holiday weekend; wunderground meteorologists Angela Fritz, Rob Carver, and Shaun Tanner will be handling the afternoon and evening posts. Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters
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251. Vero1 04:32 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
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252. bohonkweatherman 04:32 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
Well shoot!  I was really hoping we here in TX would get some rain out of 13 but it seems as though we are out of luck...AGAIN!!

NO FAIR!
Until the high pressure gets blown up real good unfortunately most of Texas will remain dry. I hope some of Texas gets a little rain from the front but none expected in Central Texas because we are too dry being on wrong side of tropical system.
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254. PcolaDan 04:33 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting ElConando:


Were the expletives in old english?

Sumerian I believe.
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256. Patrap 04:34 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
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258. Vincent4989 04:34 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian7:
i am not an am poster also you this been poofed bye bye

Liar! (lightning strikes and scary piano sounds play AGAIN)
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260. flowrida 04:34 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Does this Katia still have a chance of affecting Florida?
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261. Grothar 04:35 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting ElConando:


Were the expletives in old english?


I used words in every language I could think of. However, I couldn't match the ones from the guys from New York. They definitely have a way of expressing themselves which is unmatched in the rest of the country.
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262. scott39 04:35 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
TD 13 outflow is getting much better, and is filling in on the S and W side. It is also very big!!
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266. ElConando 04:36 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting PcolaDan:

Sumerian I believe.


Word has it that those expletives were so bad, that one use of it on another person would have them crying home to their mommies or wives/husbands.
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267. Grothar 04:36 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
The new wave has a good spin already and very low latitude with a good attitude.

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268. quakeman55 04:36 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting flowrida:
Does this Katia still have a chance of affecting Florida?

And it begins...
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270. sarahjola 04:36 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
can someone with more knowledge than me tell me if td 13 is starting to strengthen and if shear is dropping around it. it seems to me that the banding is getting better and that the ull is not doing too much damage. should this td get a better chance of getting stronger later today say around 5 or 6? thanks to anyone who can clear this up for me
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272. atmoaggie 04:37 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:


true, but that's not the problem. They have a database replica off-site, but they don't have a solid plan for users to connect to said replica.

It's more of an end user problem than a data problem.

I helped rebuild their systems after Katrina, and you'd think they would have a more robust disaster plan. Whatever - not my $$$.

I'll set up a Citrix server for them to be nice... if they need it their users can hit up a McDonalds and connect in via Citrix.
Ah, I see.

Typical if-it-could-maybe-happen mentality coming back to bite them...when they should have had the when-X-happens thought process.
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273. EYEStoSEA 04:37 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Hello all you guys and gals....well, I'm in the cone...dont mind the rain ( wish it was for TX), a little wind..ok...but..the spawned tornadoes that come with these systems is another story. Not much warning with them nados.

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274. Patrap 04:37 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
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275. jpsb 04:37 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting connie1976:


This is what I was thinking and I'm not a weather person... see, I'm learning something!! Thank you for answering me... I didn't mean to pick on males...it's just some people were being rather rude...they could have just put me on ignor, instead of insulting me and hurting my feelings (ok, maybe not really hurting my feelings.lol.)
I am in Galveston Tx, so I am not paying to much attention to Katia yet. To busy rain casting td13, which by the way seems to be expanding/drifting west? Hope so, anyway I can't tell you how many times I've thought the storm was going to miss the NHC predicted turn north and guess what? NHC was right and I was wrong. So many times in fact that I have given up west casting. If NHC says it is going to turn north, it is going to turn north. Maybe sooner, maybe later but it is going to turn north.
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277. divdog 04:38 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting quakeman55:

And it begins...
Its been going for a while but it is time to move on
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278. druseljic 04:38 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
I seems that if I tallied up the responses to the trolls it would outnumber the posts by the trolls !?!
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279. Tazmanian 04:38 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
hello guys
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280. overwash12 04:38 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting quakeman55:

And it begins...
Lee will combine with Katia and form cat 6 the sequel(sci-fi)
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282. Vero1 04:38 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:
The new wave has a good spin already and very low latitude with a good attitude.


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283. southernema 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Hello all you guys and gals....well, I'm in the cone...dont mind the rain ( wish it was for TX), a little wind..ok...but..the spawned tornadoes that come with these systems is another story. Not much warning with them nados.




i am worrying about possible tornadoes also
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284. Grothar 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
..I bet its a Yute,


Did you say Yute? Ah, What's a Yute? LOL
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285. flowrida 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting overwash12:
Lee will combine with Katia and form cat 6 the sequel(sci-fi)
Are you serious I never heard of a cat 6?
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286. yoboi 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting connie1976:
..does anyone else who lives in south florida have a lot of ants this year? what do you use to get rid of them? I have tried everything!

try salt works well
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289. connie1976 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
flowrida:

I wouldn't ask that question.....it starts up the pms thing....not a good idea...
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290. Patrap 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
..Its those changes in Latitude, changes in attitude's
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291. CosmicEvents 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting lowerbamagirl:


It is very important when it comes to insurance. If we get damage from a TD (unnamed) we pay a $250 deductible. If we get damage from a "named" storm, we pay a $19,000 deductible. Big difference!
Everyone should check their own policy. This can be different from one to another. In my case, my hurricane deductible doesn't kick in with a tropical storm. It kicks in if a hurricane warning is posted for any part of the state.
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292. divdog 04:39 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
hello guys
be careful taz .. taz7 is trying to be you but we know there is only 1 taz
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293. flowrida 04:40 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting flowrida:
Are you serious I never heard of a cat 6?
Should I tell my husband to start taping up the windows?
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294. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:40 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
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295. Junior88 04:40 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting overwash12:
Lee will combine with Katia and form cat 6 the sequel(sci-fi)


They already had a sequel to it.
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296. ironbanks 04:40 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
I just passed on of the launches on lake ponchartrain. Water is at the top of the docks already. Probably 2-2.5 feet above normal tide levels. If TD#13 stalls and turns into a cat 1 we will have significant flooding on our coast outside the levees.
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297. Tazmanian 04:40 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
HELLO GUYS ANY ONE READ THIS POST HELLO HELLO



PLZS SAY SOME IN ALL SO IF YOU LOOK AT MY JOIN DATE IFS IS THE REAL ME
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298. Drakoen 04:41 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Water vapor imagery shows that the upper level low off to 13L's northwest is pushing down dry air onto the western portion of the system inhibiting its organization.

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299. Grothar 04:41 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting PcolaDan:

Sumerian I believe.


You want me to move those models over to Pensacola? :P
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301. JupiterFL 04:41 PM GMT on septembrie 02, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
..I bet its a Yute,


Two Yutes. Two what?
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